Lobster Shop Wall Depth?

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:29 pm

Was wondering just how deep it gets here in Tacoma from the shore? It seems to be deeper quicker straight out from the entry ramp at the beach. I have been doing some trimix dives here over the last 6 months or so and was curious how deep you can actually get from shore here. On my deepest dive it did not seem to be flattening out yet.

Kirby

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:38 pm

I've been told that you can get about as deep as you want to, right there. I only dove it once, with Bob. We went to about 160', and it definitely kept going. I've heard you can break 300' there....

Kirby wrote:Was wondering just how deep it gets here in Tacoma from the shore? It seems to be deeper quicker straight out from the entry ramp at the beach. I have been doing some trimix dives here over the last 6 months or so and was curious how deep you can actually get from shore here. On my deepest dive it did not seem to be flattening out yet.

Kirby

Grateful Diver · Post by **Grateful Diver** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:40 pm

Went to about 205 there a coupla weeks ago ... just to see what was down there. It was pretty boring. We found a small octopus, an abandoned crab pot, and a whole lotta bottom ... definitely not worth blowing $100 worth of gas on.

But it did keep on going down ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:37 pm

Looking at the chart, the soundings out in the channel are at ~90 fathoms, or 540 feet. It drops off pretty damn fast to that depth at Lobster Shop. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes down to 300 fsw.

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:47 pm

dsteding wrote:Looking at the chart, the soundings out in the channel are at ~90 fathoms, or 540 feet. It drops off pretty damn fast to that depth at Lobster Shop. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes down to 300 fsw.

Dang. You can get all the way to "stupid deep" around here in a hurry- arent there some parts of the Sound that reach 1,000'?

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:53 pm

Joshua Smith wrote:
dsteding wrote:Looking at the chart, the soundings out in the channel are at ~90 fathoms, or 540 feet. It drops off pretty damn fast to that depth at Lobster Shop. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes down to 300 fsw.
Dang. You can get all the way to "stupid deep" around here in a hurry- arent there some parts of the Sound that reach 1,000'?

Deepest I see is ~100 fathoms. But, I'm not looking everywhere. I do know up on the Sunshine Coast it goes way deeper than that in those fjords.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer ... able.shtml

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:20 pm

I remember hitting 145ft or so and it was steep below that but not really vertical. I think that was with GratefulB and Snowbear. I guess that is just the top of one of the "steps". Not exactly my fav site anyway so I'll trust Bob when he says its not worth it at 205

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:19 am

I need a better chart, the one I bought didn't have enough detail. Directly out from the true Lobster Shop wall it starts to flatten out for a ways, and from the MOFO wall it seems to do the same. Directly out from the beach entry seems to be a deep hole. Hard to picture in your head when you can only see 10 ft or so. I have been to 233 at the pipeline, but that was one long swim. We swam to the wall from the end of the pipe at 150 and it seemed pretty flat until you got to 120 ft or so on that side. If you look at the terrain above the beach and try to envision it below water, it is probably very similar.

Waynne Fowler · Post by **Waynne Fowler** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:32 am

so anyone run out of wall on this dive yet?

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:15 pm

I have been exploring this area for the last couple of years and have found, from South to North.....

Between the pipeline and lobster shop wall, a 15 ft vertical wall at 120 ft
The Lobster shop wall, top 90 bottom 120-130 with slope below to >200
A short section of wall at 160 just to North of Lobster shop wall
The North wall, top 130 bottom 160-170 (go north from entry beach to South end of wall)
The Mofo wall, top 134 bottom 170-180
The North Mofo wall top 167 bottom 200-205
The Asarco Wall top 141- bottom 180-190
These are all very long verical sections, separated from each other by steep slopes.

They are alot more fun to dive when the visibility gets great, and if you have several people with really good lights.
The walls to the North are a 15 minute swim straight out from shore and will buy you some serious deco obligation getting there and back.

I am seriously having trouble finding anyone I can dive with safely (what is safety anyway, kind of a relative term) on these sites. If anyone wants to enjoy a dive down here that is appropriately equipped, trained, and experienced, I would love to dive with you. It's awfull lonely in the absolute darkness. I do these dives at least twice a week or more between my dives at other sites.

By the way, have been trying out a Shearwater computer the last month, very nice.

Kirby
(253)347-2817

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:34 pm

Kirby wrote:I am seriously having trouble finding anyone I can dive with safely (what is safety anyway, kind of a relative term)

I'm not some kind of elitist snob or anything- but "safety" as it relates to "diving" is pretty well defined. When you get to "tech diving", the definition gets pretty narrow. It involves stuff like having a dive plan.

bigsky · Post by **bigsky** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:03 pm

Joshua Smith wrote:
Kirby wrote:I am seriously having trouble finding anyone I can dive with safely (what is safety anyway, kind of a relative term)

I'm not some kind of elitist snob or anything- but "safety" as it relates to "diving" is pretty well defined. When you get to "tech diving", the definition gets pretty narrow. It involves stuff like having a dive plan.

....and diving your plan
.....with bailouts

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:41 pm

bigsky wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
Kirby wrote:I am seriously having trouble finding anyone I can dive with safely (what is safety anyway, kind of a relative term)

I'm not some kind of elitist snob or anything- but "safety" as it relates to "diving" is pretty well defined. When you get to "tech diving", the definition gets pretty narrow. It involves stuff like having a dive plan.

....and diving your plan
.....with bailouts

Yeah. You don't have to be an elitist snob to know how long you're gonna be in the water. On a tech dive.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:32 pm

Joshua Smith wrote:
bigsky wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
Kirby wrote:I am seriously having trouble finding anyone I can dive with safely (what is safety anyway, kind of a relative term)

I'm not some kind of elitist snob or anything- but "safety" as it relates to "diving" is pretty well defined. When you get to "tech diving", the definition gets pretty narrow. It involves stuff like having a dive plan.

....and diving your plan
.....with bailouts

Yeah. You don't have to be an elitist snob to know how long you're gonna be in the water. On a tech dive.

Cherry picker

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:23 pm

CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.

rjw · Post by **rjw** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:44 am

Joshua Smith wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.

I don't mind cherry pickers. Its the bell ringers I stay away from.

loanwolf · Post by **loanwolf** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:42 am

Joshua Smith wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.

Josh I am a little confused, what defines a elitist snob in diving to you?

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:55 am

loanwolf wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.
Josh I am a little confused, what defines a elitist snob in diving to you?

:angry:

Sockmonkey · Post by **Sockmonkey** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:28 am

Joshua Smith wrote:
Kirby wrote:I am seriously having trouble finding anyone I can dive with safely (what is safety anyway, kind of a relative term)

I'm not some kind of elitist snob or anything- but "safety" as it relates to "diving" is pretty well defined. When you get to "tech diving", the definition gets pretty narrow. It involves stuff like having a dive plan.

I'm suspicious of disclaimers like "I'm not an elitist snob or anything..." Like the Seinfieldian "...not that there's anything wrong with that" or when you cop to watching Road Rules vs. Real World you can make it ok with "I was flipping channels the other day...."

Really they're mutually elusive. As someone from the east coast I urge everyone to revel in your elitism just don't be a snob about it.

-Eric

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:40 am

Nwbrewer wrote:
loanwolf wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.
Josh I am a little confused, what defines a elitist snob in diving to you?
:angry:

This ain't about what you think this is about. And it has absolutely *nothing* to do with UTD/ DIR. Or any other training agency, for that matter. It's more of a personal thing.

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:17 am

Joshua Smith wrote:
Nwbrewer wrote:
loanwolf wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.
Josh I am a little confused, what defines a elitist snob in diving to you?
:angry:

This ain't about what you think this is about. And it has absolutely *nothing* to do with UTD/ DIR. Or any other training agency, for that matter. It's more of a personal thing.

I was just poking fun at where a lot of the elitist snobbery seems to come from. No harm intended.

Tangfish · Post by **Tangfish** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:17 am

You guys are being elitist by not letting us in on it!

loanwolf · Post by **loanwolf** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:53 am

Tangfish wrote:You guys are being elitist by not letting us in on it!

That is what I thought

I was just having some fun. it is not about anything either but i was fishing for an answer. Now i am even more intrigued. You guys opened the door and I could not resist poking my big nose in and takiing a look around. Nothing better to do today but fill all my tanks as I am right now. Pissing off the neighbors with the compressor and booster running.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:51 am

Joshua Smith wrote:
Nwbrewer wrote:
loanwolf wrote:
Joshua Smith wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:Cherry picker

Guilty as charged. I still think you should know how many cherries you're gonna pick, and how deep into the orchard you plan on going before you start, though. Not like I'm an elitist snob about it or anything.
Josh I am a little confused, what defines a elitist snob in diving to you?
:angry:

This ain't about what you think this is about. And it has absolutely *nothing* to do with UTD/ DIR. Or any other training agency, for that matter. It's more of a personal thing.

Dammit Nailer you just pooed on my T-ball

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:59 pm

Wow, Cherry Pickers, Elitists Snobs......
Sounds like alot of fun but does anyone actually dive around here?

Kirby

Northwest Dive Club

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