Is this bottle I found over 100 years old?

BASSMAN · Post by **BASSMAN** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:31 am

Okay so I found this old bottle at Three Tree Point.

It has a seam all the way to the top of the Bottle / Lip
No threads.
I will post pictures later.

On the bottom...

"HILL SYRUP CO * SEATTLE * "

The only info on "Hill Syrup Co" on google is this archived New York Times
News paper artcle Dated Oct. 27th 1894

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fr ... 94659ED7CF

Can anyone help?

enchantmentdivi · Post by **enchantmentdivi** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:37 am

This is a great website for identifying and dating. LOADS of info, but it is a bit cumbersome to sift through. Good luck--can't wait to see the pic of it.

http://www.blm.gov/historic_bottles/

Burntchef · Post by **Burntchef** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:18 am

here are a few sites on this thread that may help.

http://www.nwdiveclub.com/viewtopic.php?t=3098

Dmitchell · Post by **Dmitchell** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:22 am

I alos found through Google reference to a corporate law case the Hill Syrup was involved in dates 1924.

Either way since they were around pre 1900 Theres no reason that your bottle wouldn't be 100 years +.

What was happening in that area back in that time?

Dave

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:40 am

3 Tree would have probably been a logging camp ~100yrs ago. Or possibly an anchorage from southly storms.

Jeff Kruse is good with bottles and actually returned some of his collection to teh sound when he moved. You might talk with him about it.

Jeff Kruse · Post by **Jeff Kruse** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:02 pm

I have found old bottles at three tree. There are some good ones there still to be found. I liked searching the 80 - 100 foot range.
I have found some real nice old (100+) bottles in Cove 2. If you know what to look for you can tell if a bottle is old before you pick it up. Now that I returned a lot of my collection back to Puget Sound you might find a few in Cove 2.

If the seam goes all the way to the top then it's probably less than 100 years old. Thats kind of the litmas test for us, if the seam goes to the top we dont keep them unless the bottle looks realy cool. I check all coke bottles to see if they are Christmas cokes even though there seams go to the top.

Post by **Sea of Green** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:29 am

Jeff Kruse wrote:I have found old bottles at three tree. There are some good ones there still to be found. I liked searching the 80 - 100 foot range.
I have found some real nice old (100+) bottles in Cove 2. If you know what to look for you can tell if a bottle is old before you pick it up. Now that I returned a lot of my collection back to Puget Sound you might find a few in Cove 2.

If the seam goes all the way to the top then it's probably less than 100 years old. Thats kind of the litmas test for us, if the seam goes to the top we dont keep them unless the bottle looks realy cool. I check all coke bottles to see if they are Christmas cokes even though there seams go to the top.

In case anybody is wondering: Christmas cokes

Sergeant Pepper · Post by **Sergeant Pepper** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:08 pm

Hey, where's the picture already?

BASSMAN · Post by **BASSMAN** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:00 am

I'll try to get some pictures up Today.

BASSMAN · Post by **BASSMAN** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:43 am

This is the closest I could find On-Line{Top is different}

Sergeant Pepper · Post by **Sergeant Pepper** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:53 am

Nice find!

Burntchef · Post by **Burntchef** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:08 am

great find, did you clean it or was it allready in that good of condition??

ive been toying with the idea of building a bottle tumbler to polish the ones i find but not sure if iam ready to expand my nerdness

anyone know what the rpm of a tank tumbler is???

Jeff Kruse · Post by **Jeff Kruse** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:54 pm

Thats a neet top. I havent seen one of those. Now your hooked and you will have to pick up every bottle you see!

DiverDown · Post by **DiverDown** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:38 pm

I would date it some where around the fiftys. If you search the web you can find what the numbers and symbols mean on the bottom of the bottle. Nice find, I have a growing collection of jars and bottles that date to the early 1900s. Try to dive some lakes, usually where I find most of my old bottles.

http://www.myinsulators.com/glass-facto ... marks.html

Scroll down the first page. You will see the owens-illinois glass company logo. looks like the same symbol is on your bottle?

BASSMAN · Post by **BASSMAN** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:43 pm

Thanks for the help

Sounder · Post by **Sounder** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:04 am

Definitely let Valerie have a go at it. She'll be able to tell you more about it than you probably even want to know!