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Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:36 pm
by Chris Borgen
This is a wooden fishing vessel we found in Lake Union.


[vimeo]http://www.vimeo.com/12726460[/vimeo]

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:57 pm
by BDub
Very nice, Chris!

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:01 pm
by lundysd
Freakin awesome dude!

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:51 pm
by renoun
So did you go commando style or did you actually get permission from the police to dive Lake Union?

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:09 am
by Nwbrewer
Sweet Video Chris.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:27 am
by Chris Borgen
renoun wrote:So did you go commando style or did you actually get permission from the police to dive Lake Union?
Myself, and 2 other divers are working with a group documenting the wrecks in Lake Union.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:12 pm
by Raydar
Nice vid.

Did you grab that crawdad for an after-dive snack? :D

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:49 pm
by Chris Borgen
Raydar wrote:Nice vid.

Did you grab that crawdad for an after-dive snack? :D
Ha, nope, not sure I would eat anything out of Lake Union. But my buddy Erik gets them a lot from lake Wa

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:25 pm
by ljjames
beautiful!! wonderful lighting Chris!!! LOVE IT!

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:46 pm
by renoun
Chris Borgen wrote:
renoun wrote:So did you go commando style or did you actually get permission from the police to dive Lake Union?
Myself, and 2 other divers are working with a group documenting the wrecks in Lake Union.
That is fine, just be aware that the Harobor Patrol likes to do its own thing and can make some odd choices about when and where they choose to enforce some of the odd laws still on the books. Currently one is prohibited from diving between the locks and Webster Point without written permission from the Chief of Police (typically deligated to the Harbor Patrol Lt.). I have had some ongoing issues with them not being willing to recognize changes we had the city council make to the speed limit ordinace several years ago even though there were Harbor Patrol staff present at the council meeting.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:25 pm
by CaptnJack
I've called them and gotten verbal permission to dive the AJ Fuller (also in the Harbor Patrol permit required area). There was no paperwork, although I did get the dispatcher's name along with the date and time I spoke with her. Just in case a patrol officer approached us on the water. SPD seems more possessive of Lake Union and the ship canal than the Seattle waterfront & Harbor Island though.

Personally Lake Union water isn't very bad and I would swim there in non-storm events (I work in water quality). But I would not dive there. The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:41 am
by loanwolf
CaptnJack wrote: The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).

In 97 I was helping a friend who was highered to pull things off the bottom of the ship canal and we ran into these pools of the bright purple gue that reminded me of the slimy stuff we had as kids. We sent some to the lab at UW and it came back as PCB's. Bad JuJu.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:47 pm
by Chris Borgen
CaptnJack wrote:I've called them and gotten verbal permission to dive the AJ Fuller (also in the Harbor Patrol permit required area). There was no paperwork, although I did get the dispatcher's name along with the date and time I spoke with her. Just in case a patrol officer approached us on the water. SPD seems more possessive of Lake Union and the ship canal than the Seattle waterfront & Harbor Island though.

Personally Lake Union water isn't very bad and I would swim there in non-storm events (I work in water quality). But I would not dive there. The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).
Well apparently Lake Union isn't the only spot we should be worried about. Komo 4 got us on vid this morning diving in fecal infested waters off sand point.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/9691 ... ?tab=video

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:36 pm
by Mattleycrue76
Chris Borgen wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:I've called them and gotten verbal permission to dive the AJ Fuller (also in the Harbor Patrol permit required area). There was no paperwork, although I did get the dispatcher's name along with the date and time I spoke with her. Just in case a patrol officer approached us on the water. SPD seems more possessive of Lake Union and the ship canal than the Seattle waterfront & Harbor Island though.

Personally Lake Union water isn't very bad and I would swim there in non-storm events (I work in water quality). But I would not dive there. The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).
Well apparently Lake Union isn't the only spot we should be worried about. Komo 4 got us on vid this morning diving in fecal infested waters off sand point.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/9691 ... ?tab=video

Unfortunately I can't get the video to load.

Awesome video of the Jeanette though, and the music was cool too.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:40 pm
by Chris Borgen
Mattleycrue76 wrote:
Chris Borgen wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:I've called them and gotten verbal permission to dive the AJ Fuller (also in the Harbor Patrol permit required area). There was no paperwork, although I did get the dispatcher's name along with the date and time I spoke with her. Just in case a patrol officer approached us on the water. SPD seems more possessive of Lake Union and the ship canal than the Seattle waterfront & Harbor Island though.

Personally Lake Union water isn't very bad and I would swim there in non-storm events (I work in water quality). But I would not dive there. The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).
Well apparently Lake Union isn't the only spot we should be worried about. Komo 4 got us on vid this morning diving in fecal infested waters off sand point.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/9691 ... ?tab=video



Unfortunately I can't get the video to load.

Awesome video of the Jeanette though, and the music was cool too.
Thanks Matt, the link worked for me so it should be working

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:48 pm
by loanwolf
Chris Borgen wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:I've called them and gotten verbal permission to dive the AJ Fuller (also in the Harbor Patrol permit required area). There was no paperwork, although I did get the dispatcher's name along with the date and time I spoke with her. Just in case a patrol officer approached us on the water. SPD seems more possessive of Lake Union and the ship canal than the Seattle waterfront & Harbor Island though.

Personally Lake Union water isn't very bad and I would swim there in non-storm events (I work in water quality). But I would not dive there. The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).
Well apparently Lake Union isn't the only spot we should be worried about. Komo 4 got us on vid this morning diving in fecal infested waters off sand point.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/9691 ... ?tab=video
They sure made Eric's word say what they wanted buy cutting and pasting didn't they. Dude you are now a target for the city. :timeout: I am glad I decided to stay home this morning instead of going diving.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:54 pm
by Chris Borgen
loanwolf wrote:
Chris Borgen wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:I've called them and gotten verbal permission to dive the AJ Fuller (also in the Harbor Patrol permit required area). There was no paperwork, although I did get the dispatcher's name along with the date and time I spoke with her. Just in case a patrol officer approached us on the water. SPD seems more possessive of Lake Union and the ship canal than the Seattle waterfront & Harbor Island though.

Personally Lake Union water isn't very bad and I would swim there in non-storm events (I work in water quality). But I would not dive there. The sediment ranks pretty bad, if more fish could actually live there (it goes anoxic) it would be right up there with the Duwamish as a Superfund site. PAHs, PCBs, copper, lead, and tributyltin are all really high in sediment there. From stormwater runoff, marinas, and boat/ship yards. I'd recommend a FFM sealed to a dry hood at a minimum. When the EPA hazmat dive team did some caged fish studies in Lake Union with me 9yrs ago this was their minimum PPE (personal protective equipment).
Well apparently Lake Union isn't the only spot we should be worried about. Komo 4 got us on vid this morning diving in fecal infested waters off sand point.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/9691 ... ?tab=video
They sure made Eric's word say what they wanted buy cutting and pasting didn't they. Dude you are now a target for the city. :timeout: I am glad I decided to stay home this morning instead of going diving.
Target for the city?????? And yeah they cropped Eriks interview. Should have come diving, the water was nice!!

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:45 pm
by gcbryan
Hey Chris, I think I've seen that one with Eric. It's on the southern end of the lake isn't it?

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:08 am
by Chris Borgen
gcbryan wrote:Hey Chris, I think I've seen that one with Eric. It's on the southern end of the lake isn't it?
Gray, no we just found this one. We had never seen it before.

Re: Lake Union, Wreck of the Jeanette

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:30 pm
by gcbryan
Chris Borgen wrote:
gcbryan wrote:Hey Chris, I think I've seen that one with Eric. It's on the southern end of the lake isn't it?
Gray, no we just found this one. We had never seen it before.
Nice! You guys need to find some new wrecks in a nicer body of water! :)