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WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:19 am
by thefeve
Hey All,

So recently realizing my White's MK2 undergarment isn't quite enough for winter diving. I've been wearing a few layers of poly under as well, but I was freezing on my last dive. Can't afford a shmancy new one, so thought i'd put the word out to see if anyone had any used or old heavier undies they'd part with for cheap. I'm probably an XL or XXL men's size (6'1, 240ish)

Thanks!

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:17 am
by Biodiversity_Guy
Also considering adding a 2nd hood-- maybe wearing a tropical beanie under your current one.

A lot of heat is lost through your head. Reducing water exchange around your head, or adding more insulation there, can make a big difference.

As the old camping phrase goes: If your feet are cold, put on a hat :)

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:01 pm
by Scubak
It's really not the heat loss on the head for me...its keeping the air in the suit...that fine layer....getting it just right will keep you warm and dandy...argon also helps me.
However, I dive a Weezle and would not dive anything else but a 4th element. My husband Tim dives that as his choice and then dives the fleece jumpsuit in the summer...
Kirsten

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:53 am
by thefeve
Yah I Think part of my problem is also controlling the air bubble in my suit. I've been a lot more conservative lately (meaning more saueeze) in an effort to ease control of my trim and risk of feet gettin floaty. So I realize I have to work on that a bit. But also think the fleece layer isn't quite enough for this time of year...

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:16 pm
by Nwbrewer
thefeve wrote:Yah I Think part of my problem is also controlling the air bubble in my suit. I've been a lot more conservative lately (meaning more saueeze) in an effort to ease control of my trim and risk of feet gettin floaty. So I realize I have to work on that a bit. But also think the fleece layer isn't quite enough for this time of year...
Argon.

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:18 pm
by thefeve
Nwbrewer wrote:
thefeve wrote:Yah I Think part of my problem is also controlling the air bubble in my suit. I've been a lot more conservative lately (meaning more saueeze) in an effort to ease control of my trim and risk of feet gettin floaty. So I realize I have to work on that a bit. But also think the fleece layer isn't quite enough for this time of year...
Argon.
Just got a fill!

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:16 pm
by thefeve
So first dive with Argon and it was definitely a significant difference! About the same bottom time and conditions and I was "less cold"... Can't say I was warm:) but should be enough for now at least for he stuff I'm doin, or find a good deal on a better undy...

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:48 pm
by Nwbrewer
thefeve wrote:So first dive with Argon and it was definitely a significant difference! About the same bottom time and conditions and I was "less cold"... Can't say I was warm:) but should be enough for now at least for he stuff I'm doin, or find a good deal on a better undy...
Or double the 100's so you can do a full length dive.....

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:49 pm
by thefeve
Hey now, 42 min isn't all that bad... and that was starting with 2900psi in the tank!

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:14 am
by BDub
thefeve wrote:So first dive with Argon and it was definitely a significant difference! About the same bottom time and conditions and I was "less cold"... Can't say I was warm:) but should be enough for now at least for he stuff I'm doin, or find a good deal on a better undy...
I've never felt warmer using argon over air or nitrox. However, I do notice that it takes significantly longer to get chilled when using argon.

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:16 am
by thefeve
BDub wrote:
thefeve wrote:So first dive with Argon and it was definitely a significant difference! About the same bottom time and conditions and I was "less cold"... Can't say I was warm:) but should be enough for now at least for he stuff I'm doin, or find a good deal on a better undy...
I've never felt warmer using argon over air or nitrox. However, I do notice that it takes significantly longer to get chilled when using argon.
Yah that's a good way to put it. Not warmer, but just felt like i didn't get uncomfortably chilled as fast...

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:32 am
by HaleyH20
Are you still looking for undergarments? I have Fourth Element bottoms (L) and top (XL) that I'm looking to sell.

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:33 am
by thefeve
Yah potentially. Would have to see how they fit...

Re: WTB: Winter Undergarment

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:40 am
by HaleyH20
Hi-

You're welcome to try them on sometime. I live in Seattle, so maybe we could meet halfway?

I would like to try to sell them together, but I would be willing to sell the bottoms alone. I was thinking $115 for each piece (if I recall, they were $200 per piece), and if you buy both then I'd take off $30.

Do you have any questions about them before you decide if you want to try them?

Let me know!