America's Oldest Wreck Found

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:37 pm

Check it out: Wreck. Lucky suckers!

Of course the don't mention the depth! Classified depth?! WTF?!

Aquanautchuck · Post by **Aquanautchuck** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:50 pm

Way cool. I am all for keeping it a secret. As for diving up there. The tides in that area if I remember correctly (I lived up there 2 years) are the 2nd highest in the world after the Bay of Fundy. They actually surf on the incoming tide.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:18 pm

Cook Inlet is not really recreationally diveable. Tides are vicious and the vis is zilch.

Ps I'm pretty sure its not the oldest wreck in America

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:26 pm

CaptnJack wrote:
Ps I'm pretty sure its not the oldest wreck in America

You're probably right. It's just the oldest found wreck. $\:D/$

nwscubamom · Post by **nwscubamom** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:20 pm

Seth T. wrote:Check it out: Wreck. Lucky suckers!

Of course the don't mention the depth! Classified depth?! WTF?!

Yeah, but get this:
"The actual depth of wreck site is still classified by state authorities," Lloyd said. "We have by no means found everything."

An array of objects, from guns, cannons, shoes and plates, are hidden beneath the broad leaves of giant kelp beds...."

That sort of gives a bit of info away - can't be TOO deep!!! Giant kelp beds? I think they're at most 120 feet high.

So get busy finding that thing!

Just look for kelp! Easy! <HAH>

- Janna

gomi_otaku · Post by **gomi_otaku** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:40 pm

It says right in the story- oldest American wreck found [b]in the state[/b]
There are a lot of wrecks older than 1867 that have been found- several in Lake Superior, plus the Queen Anne's Revenge in Ocracoke harbor.
gomi_

Dmitchell · Post by **Dmitchell** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:46 pm

CaptnJack wrote:Cook Inlet is not really recreationally diveable. Tides are vicious and the vis is zilch.

Ps I'm pretty sure its not the oldest wreck in America

Maybe around Anchorage you're right, but lower down in the inlet where these guys are it's not that bad and the vis is fine.

I dove with Steve here in Juneau last year He's a good guy!

Dave

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:40 am

gomi_otaku wrote:It says right in the story- oldest American wreck found in the state
gomi_

Yeah, that's what I thought too, but the title says oldest in America, so I wan't sure which it was.

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:06 am

Seth T. wrote:
CaptnJack wrote:
Ps I'm pretty sure its not the oldest wreck in America
You're probably right. It's just the oldest found wreck. $\:D/$

Never heard of the Monitor eh?

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:10 am

The video http://community.adn.com/mini_apps/vmix ... S=00000191 suggests fairly shallow. I know Ursa is not tech diving with these guys so, <100ft

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:19 am

CaptnJack wrote:The video http://community.adn.com/mini_apps/vmix ... S=00000191 suggests fairly shallow. I know Ursa is not tech diving with these guys so, <100ft

Yep, it sure does look shallow. Way too much light for several hundred feet down in AK waters.

dsteding · Post by **dsteding** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:42 am

Seth T. wrote: Yeah, that's what I thought too, but the title says oldest in America, so I wan't sure which it was.

Oldest American wreck found in the state, as the flag of the ship, not oldest wreck in America. Read the headline again.

Looks shallow, especially if you consider the shoals in the video. I agree that it shouldn't be widely broadcast in terms of location, and I'm sure Ursa is going to keep her mouth shut regarding the numbers . . .

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:51 am

dsteding wrote:
Oldest American wreck found in the state, as the flag of the ship, not oldest wreck in America. Read the headline again.

Okay, I get it now. But seriously, that's just not worded well: "Divers Explore America's Oldest Shipwreck in Alaska."
I understood it as: "Divers in Alaska Explore America's Oldest Shipwreck."

Anyway, it's an old ASS boat!

Dmitchell · Post by **Dmitchell** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:34 am

Freaking Alaskan's need to learn to write headlines!

Dave

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:37 am

Dmitchell wrote:Freaking Alaskan's need to learn to write headlines!

Dave

That's what I'm saying!

Tom Nic · Post by **Tom Nic** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:42 am

Of course these ARE our topnotch professional communicators in media... the ones that give us the "unbiased" view of the world, and...

oh, shut up Tom.... ](*,)

Joshua Smith · Post by **Joshua Smith** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:43 am

I thought it said "Oldest American Divers Looking to get Wrecked in Alaska," but I didn't really read it very closely.

Tom Nic · Post by **Tom Nic** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:45 am

Nailer99 wrote:I thought it said "Oldest American Divers Looking to get Wrecked in Alaska," but I didn't really read it very closely.

nice...

Nwbrewer · Post by **Nwbrewer** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:43 pm

The pic here would indicate it's not too deep. I don't even see doubles on the diver in the pic.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ck09m.html

Jake

Aquanautchuck · Post by **Aquanautchuck** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:14 pm

Nailer99 wrote:I thought it said "Oldest American Divers Looking to get Wrecked in Alaska," but I didn't really read it very closely.

Josh, put the O2 mask back on. I don't think you are quite done with your deco.

Pez7378 · Post by **Pez7378** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:44 pm

Nwbrewer wrote:The pic here would indicate it's not too deep. I don't even see doubles on the diver in the pic.

Looks like a single tank in that pic. CaptJack's video shows everyone using Megs except for one who's on Doubles. No matter what the depth is, its a cool historical find!

Dmitchell · Post by **Dmitchell** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:28 am

In conversations I had with Steve last summer he indicated that it was pretty shallow. Just looking at the bottom I would estimate it to be less than 80 feet probably more like 40'. Kelp like that doesn't grow much deeper and the natural lighting is too good to be any deeper.

Dave

Seth T. · Post by **Seth T.** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:21 am

Dmitchell wrote: Just looking at the bottom I would estimate it to be less than 80 feet probably more like 40'. Kelp like that doesn't grow much deeper and the natural lighting is too good to be any deeper.

Dave

If it's that shallow, why hasn't this been found years earlier?

CaptnJack · Post by **CaptnJack** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:34 am

Cook Inlet is almost the size of Puget Sound

Grateful Diver · Post by **Grateful Diver** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:38 am

CaptnJack wrote:Cook Inlet is almost the size of Puget Sound

With a small fraction of the number of divers ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Northwest Dive Club

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