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LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:41 am
by RSdancey
We're getting ready to replace the gear we had stolen last month and I am looking for some opinions.

We had HID lights which we liked quite a bit. However I want to consider an LED option for replacement.

Anyone have practical experience with both? How much less effective are the LEDs in local waters?

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:54 pm
by BillZ
When I first started diving in the PNW I had a Light Cannon HID, after the bulb gave out I got UK eLED - Now I dive a GreenForce LED.

The LED's in my opinion at FAR better than the HID's.
- They are more energy efficient i.e the batteries last longer
- With the HID's they were either full power or they were off. The LEDs gradually lose power as the batteries drain.
- The light on the HID was very white where as the LED's are more natural
- The bulb on the HID's were super fragile where as the LED's can take more abuse

Just an FYI - If your looking for a pretty good light, consider a canister light from Dusty (on this board). I don't own one but went diving with Matt F a few weeks back and his $300 Dusty light kicked the snot out of my $1000 GreenForce.

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:50 pm
by Jeremy
+1 on Dusty's LED.

Totally unbeatable for the money imo....not even funny.

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:06 pm
by dwashbur
+2 on Dusty's Light. It's the most amazing light I've owned yet, and that includes one of the UK Light Cannon HID things like someone else mentioned. I own two of Dusty's Lights now, and as quick as I can afford it, I'm planning to get a third one for my daughter. You can't go wrong, he stands behind it 150%, and the price beats the pants off any comparable HID you can name. Contact him, you won't regret it.

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:49 pm
by Nwcid
I am another one to push a Dusty light. We have 2 and dive with 2 others that have them and all are very happy.

We also dive with some guys that have 21w HID lights. I am not going to lie, they are a bit brighter and seem to cut through the "murk" a bit better. The HID overall is a bit better but for the diving we do it is not ~$1000 better though........

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:07 pm
by Matt S.
IMHO the only reason to get HID over LED is that you love the adjustable focus that some HIDs have.

I DO love the adjustable focus on my Salvo HID, but man, I think I could get used to longer run times, brighter light, varying power levels, a smaller head and canister, etc etc.

I'm really interested in the HOG Morph can light, but I have a lot of outstanding questions about it that I can't get answers to... sadly the manufacturer has been unresponsive.

http://www.edge-gear.com/MORPH-1000-COR ... -P116.aspx

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:32 pm
by GearHead
This subject comes up fairly often. The thing is that both HID and LED have been improving. LEDs have gotten brighter and more efficient, but still don't match the brighter (24 - 35 Watt) HIDs for penetrating the murk. Meanwhile HIDs have gotten more durable, and some are now re-strikable. Li-ion batteries are available to give three or more dives worth of burn time with 35 W bulbs.

So it depends on what you want to do.

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:25 pm
by Dusty2
:popcorn:

Re: LED vs HID

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:07 am
by dwashbur
GearHead wrote:
So it depends on what you want to do.
I would just add, "and how many scuba units you have available to spend on it."