Gunnel ID help

[ktb]

I don't have my books handy, and this little guy isn't matching anything on Janna's site . . . what is it?

[fnerg]

I'm gonna guess a slender cockscomb, but I wouldn't know the diff between a slender cockscomb and a high cockscomb without a drug test.

[ktb]

LOL! Now that I have access to my books, I think it's a high cockscomb because of the 2 dark bars below each eye. COOL!

[Tidepool Geek]

Hi Kelly,

I'm voting for Slender Cockscomb based on the stripes under the jaw. Also, I think the eye bars on the High Cockscomb are more diagonal than the ones in your excellent photo.

Speculatively yours,

Alex

[nwscubamom]

I vote Slender as well, because of the stripes on the comb as well as on the lower lip. Also the body patterning seems a lot like a Slender. Not that I am great at telling Highs and Slenders apart - but that's just my 2psi!
- Janna

[Dusty2]

I'm with Greg on these guys. Not really sure there is a difference. Just call a high_slender cocks comb!

[dwashbur]

Last I heard, the PTB's were seriously considering merging the two anyway. Anybody got an update on that?

Definitely a cockscomb...

[ktb]

I could support merging them, since this guy has characteristics of both (according to Humann's book).

The distinctive features of the High CC are the fleshy crest and two dark bars extending below each eye. The description below that notes that "the dorsal fin is usually a paler shade joining saddles on back." Ok, I see all of that on this guy--check, check, and check.

The distinctive features of the Slender CC are the fleshy crest, 2-3 dark bars on the foredorsal fin, and pale bands on lower lip and under jaw. The description then notes "often have pale or dark bars on cheek and pale bars on back and dorsal fin." Check, check, check, and check.

COULD THIS BE HARDER?!? :angry: Sigh . . .